Consequences of ID taught over Evolution

I thought this would be a good question that deserves an answer more intelligent than one I could give. What could be the consequences, both for scientists and the rest of humanity, if Intelligent Design gets pushed through to the schools and children finish their schooling firm believers in everything being done by a "supernatural entity" that is "liek totally not God lol roflcopter"? Examples that come to mind are an entire generation of "scientists" and "biologists" that don't understand why the flu virus keeps changing, or why the fly spray formula needs switching every certain number of years. What do you see as the consequences for the world if re branded creationism gets pushed on kids as real science? (Notice I don't dare to hope that, having been "taught the controversy", a large number will choose evolution, since evolution only gets to them at schools and worship of their BFF InvisiMan gets thrown at them from friends, parents, churches, less-than-intelligent political leaders...).
Atheist Answer: 

Firstly, "teaching the controversy" or "critical analysis of evolution" is literally teaching Intelligent Design.

There is no fully developed theory, as Philip E. Johnson has admitted:

"I also don’t think that there is really a theory of intelligent design at the present time to propose as a comparable alternative to the Darwinian theory, which is, whatever errors it might contain, a fully worked out scheme. There is no intelligent design theory that’s comparable. Working out a positive theory is the job of the scientific people that we have affiliated with the movement. Some of them are quite convinced that it’s doable, but that’s for them to prove…No product is ready for competition in the educational world."

ID really only consists of a series of arguments against evolution, the default conclusion of which is a designer. Teaching the controversy allows all of these arguments to be aired. Only the designer's identity is left out, but it's pretty darn obvious.

The world won't fall apart if a generation of people, and even scientists, dismiss or never learn evolution. Even in cases like flu vaccine updates, doctors would keep doing what they're doing because it works. They'd just come up with different reasons why it does, as in, "God works it like this." Nothing supports a theory like evidence which the theory itself was changed to match.

The true consequence is that we would lose our insight. We can apply proven techniques and technologies and rationalise however we want, but if we don't understand the true reasons why they work then we can't refine them or make any new ones except by trial and error. We stagnate.

As Ken Miller has suggested, a country which sacrifices scientific understanding to maintain its beliefs falls behind the rest of the world. He's terrified that this will happen to America. I worry too, but I do think some hard data showing the country's slipping technological superiority would spur some patriots to give science a shot in the arm. I hope it isn't needed of course. Anyway, I'm Australian.


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I'm Australian too, from

I'm Australian too, from Newcastle NSW :) Where are you at?

Of course I realise that ID is mainly over in America. However if it does gain a foothold in America you can be sure it'll start scratching at the doors to the rest of the world. They've tried in some areas of Europe, for example.

We're not as insanely religious here in Oz (I hope? Am I wrong) so there's less chance of it being pushed into our schools, but the worry is still there. And it'll be a lot easier for ID proponents to say "see, Australia? Your ally America teaches Intelligent Design! You should too!"

Even living in Australia that's why I'm worried about the situation in America. Hopefully that makes sense.

Thanks for the response. I was vainly hoping for a whole list of doom and gloom predictions to go with my questions to some theists about what benefit ID brings to humanity as a whole, but of course you're right. People ignoring evolution will probably just say "God did it" and use facts discovered in light of evolution to continue their work, without being able to make new insights.

It's YOUR Hell, YOU burn in it.


Brisbane here.

Another thing I probably

Another thing I probably should have asked about... If they manage to push through a religious view of the origin of species, why would they stop there?

Who's to say the next "Teach the Controversy" battle won't be over say, trying to get science/geology teachers to teach "both sides of the debate" ? Namely Earth as 4.6 (?) billion years old versus "Intelligent Rock Design"

Fairly far fetched, but one would have thought so is Intelligent Design as a science.

It's YOUR Hell, YOU burn in it.

Not farfetched.

Evolution is a target because it contradicts the Bible. Geology and cosmology do the same thing, and hey presto, they're already targets. Look up "Flood Geology" and "White Hole Cosmology".

On a totally unrelated note

On a totally unrelated note I have an adaptation of "The Emperor's New Clothes" that I wrote up on my blog at
Called "The IDiots New Clothes"

Not a particularly GOOD adaptation - probably filled with all kinds of errors and whatnot... But I'm still proud of it ^^

Also I did look up flood geology I just haven't come across anyone yet screaming "Teach The Controversy!" about it.

Doesn't matter anyway they all start the scientific process backwards - take their unchangeable answer and pick and choose the evidence they think either supports their theory or better yet clashes with a real one.

It's YOUR Hell, YOU burn in it.